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Product families
Introduction
For people who are dealing with the topic for the first time, it may be a little difficult to find their way around the different models. The following description of the product families should provide a first impression.
The main difference between the two ElliptiGO product families is the movement when pedaling. This runs in a circle on stand up bikes (SUB, RSUB, MSUB), similar to normal bicycles. An elliptical orbit is described on the elliptical or long stride models (3C, 8C, 11R).
This manufacturer video gives a good overview of the two product families…
With a view to running, all ElliptiGO bikes allow training that is much gentler on the joints. From this point of view, in my experience, the elliptical models stand out positively from the stand up bikes, especially for longer workouts. The elliptical motion is closer to running than the circular orbit.
Stand up bikes
Technically, the stand up bikes are basically normal bicycles with a slightly different structure, a comparatively high handlebar and – of course – without a saddle.
The SUB is no longer available as a new bike. Since I own it myself, I’ll leave it in the comparison below. Successor models are the RSUB for the road and the MSUB for use on unpaved roads.
The RSUB has the same frame as the MSUB, but 28 inch wheels with street tires (ETRTO 42-622), a rigid fork and the same 8-speed gears as the SUB, although this has a different effect on the RSUB.
I have never ridden an RSUB myself, but in the comparison table below it can probably be classified mostly as the SUB, but in terms of handling it is more like the MSUB.
With a minimum gear range of 3.15 m, the mountain suitability is probably medium to good, the speed achievable on straight roads and downhill as well as the range can be rated as very high.
Technical data stand up bikes
Manufacturer/ importer information (deviations possible)…
Stand Up Bikes | SUB | RSUB | MSUB |
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Wheelbase | 46.6” (118cm) | 46.5″ (118 cm) | 47.2” (120 cm) |
Total Length | 66” (168cm) | 74.4″ (189 cm) | 74.8” (190 cm) |
Weight | 28.8 lbs (13.0 kg) | 31.4 lbs (14.2 kg) | 34.6 lbs (15.7 kg) |
Operating Height | 48.5-54.5” (123-138cm) | 43.3-49.6″ (110-126 cm) | 45.3-51.6” (115-131 cm) |
Storing Height (with front wheel) | 45.5” (116 cm) with steering extender | 43.3″ (110 cm) with steering extender | 45.3” (115 cm) with steering extender |
Storing Height (no front wheel) | 24.5” (62 cm) without steering extender | 22.5” (57 cm) without steering extender | 24.5” (62 cm) without steering extender |
Crank Length | 5.9” (150 mm) | 5.9” (150 mm) | 5.9” (150 mm) |
Gears/Speeds | 8 | 8 | 10 |
Gear Ratio Range | 1,8 – 5,4 | 1,4 – 4,4 | 0,93 – 3,5 |
Avg Gear Step | 18 % | 18 % | 16 % |
Total Gear Range | 309 % | 309 % | 382 % |
Gear Inch Range | 34 – 105 | 39 – 121 | 26 – 99 |
Stride Length | 11.8” (30 cm) | 11.8” (30 cm) | 11.8” (30 cm) |
Front and Rear Brakes | Linear pull rim brakes | Mechanical disc brakes | Mechanical disc brakes |
Grips | Clamp on anti-rotation, with ergonomic shelf | Clamp on anti-rotation, with ergonomic shelf | Clamp on anti-rotation, with ergonomic shelf |
Cranks | Custom forged aluminum | Custom forged aluminum | Custom forged aluminum |
Frame | 6061-T6 aluminum | 6061-T6 aluminum | 6061-T6 aluminum |
Fork | 20″ butted chro-moly with 1.5″ steerer | 700C butted chro-moly with 1.5” steerer | Air suspension fork, 100mm travel, variable damping |
Brake Levers | Two finger levers | Two finger levers | Two finger levers |
Propulsion System | Circular drive | Circular drive | Circular drive |
Pedals | Composite nylon pedal | Composite nylon pedal | Composite nylon pedal |
Chainring | 60-tooth, 130 BCD, 6061-T6 aluminum | 48-tooth, 130 BCD, 6061-T6 aluminum | 42-tooth narrow/wide 130 BCD 7075-T6 aluminum |
Cassette | Shimano 8-speed 11-34 tooth range | Shimano 8-speed 11-34 tooth range | Shimano 10-speed 11-42 tooth range |
Bottom Bracket | ISIS spline, sealed bearings | Oversized M48, ISIS spline, sealed bearings | Oversized M48, ISIS spline, sealed bearings |
Steering Column/ Extender | Adjustable height index locking, Chro-moly steel, anti-rotation indexing | Adjustable height index locking, Chro-moly steel, anti-rotation indexing | Adjustable height index locking, Chro-moly steel, anti-rotation indexing |
Kickstand | Single leg, forged aluminum kickstand | Single leg, forged aluminum kickstand | Single leg, forged aluminum kickstand |
Headset | 1.5” threadless | 1.5” threadless | 1.5” threadless |
Tires | Kenda Kwest, 20″ x 1.5″ 60 TPI, 100-psi | Kenda Kwest, 700 x 40C 60 TPI, 85-psi | Kenda Honey Badger, 27.5” x 2.2” 60 TPI, 50-psi |
Stem | Forged aluminum, 31.8 mm dia bar, 80 mm x 7 deg | Forged aluminum, 31.8 mm dia bar, 80 mm x 7 deg | Forged aluminum, 31.8 mm dia bar, 80 mm x 7 deg |
Handlebar | Aluminum. MTB riser bar, 50mm x 670mm | Aluminum MTB flat bar, 31.8 mm dia x 720 mm wide | Aluminum MTB flat bar, 31.8 mm dia x 720 mm wide |
Shifter | Shimano 8-speed trigger | Shimano 8-speed trigger | Shimano 10-speed trigger |
Front Wheel | 20″ aluminum aero profile rim, 28-spoke | Schrader, 700C aluminum, 32-spoke | Schrader, 27.5” aluminum, tubeless ready, 32-spoke |
Rear Wheel | 20″ aluminum aero profile rim, 32-spoke | Schrader, 700C aluminum, 32-spoke | Schrader, 27.5” aluminum, tubeless ready, 32-spoke |
Climbing Activity | Climb steep hills up to 20-30% grade | Climb steep hills up to 20% grade | Climb steep hills up to 20-30% grade |
Recommended Riding Terrain | Road, flat and hilly terrain | Road, flat and hilly terrain | Off road, road, flat and hilly |
Workout Resistance Selection | 8 different levels of resistance. 309% total resistance range. 18% difference between levels | 8 different levels of resistance. 309% total resistance range. 18% difference between levels | 10 different levels of resistance. 382% total resistance range. 16% difference between levels |
Elliptical bikes
The pedals on the elliptical models run on tracks. So they don’t really have much in common with a traditional bicycle…
Due to this construction, they are significantly more maintenance and care-intensive and also place higher demands on the condition of the surface.
The three models all have the same frame and the track/ load wheel sytsem is also identical. While the 3C (Sturmey-Archer 3-speed hub) and 8C (Shimano 8-speed hub) are quite similar except for the gearshift and minor differences in the equipment, the top model 11R stands out from the C models with a Shimano Alfine 11-speed gear hub, carbon pedals instead of aluminum/plastic, a foldable aluminum steering column instead of a removable steel one, and improved equipment details. It is the lightest of the three models.
By shifting gears sensibly, you can further reduce the strain on your knees on the hills. Therefore, as many gears as possible are of course an advantage.
In my opinion, three gears are not enough for serious running training. Just for leisurely rides in flat reas, I would recommend a 3C.
However, the 8C can definitely be a cheaper alternative to the 11R. The minimum gear range of the 8C is 35 centimeters longer than that of the 11R, which should only have an impact on longer journeys with steeper slopes. The three additional gears of the 11R should be more noticeable on faster journeys on straights or downhill and lead to an overall better gradation of the gears.
If speed and range are the main priorities when using the bike on flat terrain, it may be a good idea to convert to the SUB’s 60 tooth chain wheel, which is available as a spare part. This fits on the crank of the elliptical bikes and increases the gear range accordingly.
What I find disadvantageous about the 3- and 8-speed gearshifts is that they have to be disassembled for lubrication. With the Shimano Alfine 11 of the 11R, the oil is changed quite easily using a drain plug.
Technical data elliptical bikes
Manufacturer/ importer information (deviations possible)…
Long Stride Bikes | 3C | 8C | 11R |
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Wheelbase | 54″ (137 cm) | 54″ (137 cm) | 54″ (137 cm) |
Total Length | 75″ (190.5 cm) | 75″ (190.5 cm) | 75″ (190.5 cm) |
Weight | 42 lbs (19.1 kg) | 44 lbs (20 kg) | 39.4 lbs (17.9 kg) |
Operating Height | 50-58″ (127-147 cm) | 50-58″ (127-147 cm) | 50-58″ (127-147 cm) |
Storing Height (with front wheel) | 32″ (81 cm) with steering extender | 32″ (81 cm) with steering extender | 35″ (89 cm) with steering extender |
Storing Height (no front wheel) | 27″ (70 cm) with steering extender | 27″ (70 cm) with steering extender | 27″ (70 cm) with steering extender |
Crank Length | 6.75-10.5″ (171-267 mm) | 6.75-10.5″ (171-267 mm) | 6.75-10.5″ (171-267 mm) |
Gears/Speeds | 3 | 8 | 11 |
Gear Ratio Range | 0,75 – 1,33 | 0,527 – 1,615 | 0,527 – 2,153 |
Avg Gear Step | 33 % | 17 % | 14 % |
Total Gear Range | 177 % | 306 % | 409 % |
Gear Inch Range | 58-103 | 33 – 102 | 29 – 118 |
Stride Length | 16-25″ (41-64 cm) | 16-25″ (41-64 cm) | 16-25″ (41-64 cm) |
Front and Rear Brakes | Linear pull rim brakes | Linear pull rim brakes | Linear pull rim brakes |
Grips | Velo ergonomic grips | Velo ergonomic grips | Velo ergonomic grips |
Cranks | Custom forged aluminum with VSL | Custom forged aluminum with VSL | Custom forged aluminum with VSL |
Frame | 7005-T6 aluminum | 7005-T6 aluminum | 7005-T6 aluminum |
Fork | 20″ butted chro-moly with 1.5″ steerer | 20″ butted chro-moly with 1.5″ steerer | 20″ butted chro-moly with 1.5″ steerer |
Brake Levers | Two finger levers | Two finger levers | Two finger levers |
Propulsion System | Patented Elliptidrive technology | Patented Elliptidrive technology | Patented Elliptidrive technology |
Track System | Integral with modular inserts | Integral with modular inserts | Integral with modular inserts |
Drive Arms | Aluminum with composite nylon foot | Aluminum with composite nylon foot | Multi-modulus carbon-fiber monococque |
Chainring | 52-tooth, 130 BCD, 6061-T6 aluminum | 53-tooth, 130 BCD, 6061-T6 aluminum | 52-tooth, 130 BCD, 6061-T6 aluminum |
Sprocket | 13-tooth | 16-tooth | 18-tooth |
Gear Hub | Sturmey Archer 3-speed hub | Shimano 8-speed internally-geared hub | Shimano 11-speed internally geared hub |
Bottom Bracket | ISIS drive, sealed bearings | ISIS drive, sealed bearings | ISIS drive, sealed bearings |
Steering Column/ Extender | Adjustable height index locking, Chro-moly steel, anti-rotation indexing | Adjustable height index locking, Chro-moly steel, anti-rotation indexing | Adjustable, roto-lock safety technology Steering Extender, forged aluminum, anti-rotation indexing |
Kickstand | Dual leg, forged aluminum kickstand | Dual leg, forged aluminum kickstand | Dual leg, forged aluminum kickstand |
Headset | 1.5′‘ threadless | 1.5′‘ threadless | 1.5′‘ threadless |
Tires | Kenda Kwest, 20″ x 1.5″ 60 TPI, 100-psi | Kenda Kwest, 20″ x 1.5″ 60 TPI, 100-psi | Schwalbe Marathon Racer, 20″ x 1.5″ 60 TPI, 100-psi |
Stem | Forged aluminum, 120 mm x 7 deg. | Forged aluminum, 120 mm x 7 deg. | Forged aluminum, 120 mm x 7 deg. |
Handlebar | Aluminum MTB riser bar, 50 mm x 670mm | Aluminum MTB riser bar, 50 mm x 670mm | Aluminum MTB riser bar, 50 mm x 670mm |
Shifter | Sturmey Archer S30 trigger shifter | Shimano Alfine SL-S500 trigger shifter | Shimano Alfine SL-S700 trigger shifter |
Front Wheel | 20″ aluminum aero profile rim, 28-spoke | 20″ aluminum aero profile rim, 28-spoke | 20″ aluminum aero profile rim, 28-spoke |
Rear Wheel | 20″ aluminum aero profile rim, 32-spoke | 20″ aluminum aero profile rim, 32-spoke | 20″ aluminum aero profile rim, 32-spoke |
Climbing Activity | Climb mild hills of up to 5 % grade | Climbing Activity Climb steep hills up to 20-30 % grade | Climbing Activity Climb steep hills up to 20-30 % grade |
Recommended Riding Terrain | Road, flat terrain and mild hills | Road, flat and hilly terrain | Road, flat and hilly terrain |
Workout Resistance Selection | 3 different levels of resistance, 177% total resistance range, 33% difference between levels | 8 different levels of resistance, 306% total resistance range, 17% difference between levels | 11 different levels of resistance, 409% total resistance range, 14% difference between levels |
Further information
More is described in my articles on the respective models.
Additional information, user manuals and instructional videos can be found on the websites of the manufacturer or the German importer.
Older models and conversions
There are older ElliptiGO models and several conversions that can sometimes be found on the used market.
Discontinued models
- The ElliptiGO Arc was an elliptical compact stride bike that was offered in three different gear variants:
– Arc 3 with Sturmey-Archer 3-speed hub,
– Arc 8 with Shimano 8-speed derailleur,
– Arc 24 with a combination of both gearshifts mentioned above.
All Arcs have a design flaw that can lead to frame breakage. The manufacturer recalled it in 2021.
Therefore, an used Arc should not be purchased if you plan to ride it.
The risk is probably manageable for use with an indoor trainer. Because of the hub gear model installed in the Arc 3 and 24 with the shift chain leading out through the axle, only the Arc 8 might work with the Fluid 365 trainer without technical adjustments. - The ElliptiGO 8S was an earlier elliptical long stride model with the folding handlebars and carbon pedals of the 11R, but „only“ an 8-speed hub gear. The frame is the same as the current long stride models.
- I already mentioned that the SUB is no longer available for purchase.
Conversions
- There are conversions that are ually referred to as 11C, sometimes as 8R. In these, a Shimano Alfine 11 hub gear was installed on a 3C or 8C.
- This hub gear can be found in MSUB conversions as well.
- I have also seen conversions of various models to a Rohloff SPEEDHUB 14 hub gear or different versions of the stepless Enviolo NuVinci hub gear.
- Recently I even found on the Internet a conversion of a long stride model into a tricycle.
Assessment
Comparison
My personal assessment comparing the models in my fleet, including an assessment compared to running, is as follows…
Aspect | SUB | MSUB | 11R | Running |
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Joint protection | good | good | very good | bad |
Training effect (endurance) | very high | very high | very high | very high |
Training effect (strength) | high | high | high | low |
Training effort | very high | very high | high | high |
Versatility | high | very high | low | high |
Mountain capability | good | very good | very good | individually |
Off-road capability | okay | very good | hardly | individually |
Fun | high | very high | high | okay |
Speed | high | high | very high | low |
Range | high | high | very high | low |
Sports while travelling | complex | complex | very complex | optimal |
Handling | quite easy | easy | more difficult | very easy |
Maintenance effort | low | high | very high | negligible |
Costs (incl. maintenance) | low | high | very high | marginal |
Advantages and disadvantages
Overall, across all bikes, I see the following key advantages and disadvantages of training with an ElliptiGO compared to running…
Pros
- Joint and back protection
- Greater range with the same amount of time, therefore more variety
- Some core training included
- Fun factor
Cons
- Flexibility and spontaneity, e.g. when doing sports while travelling
- Cost
- Maintenance and care of the equipment
- Greater risk of accidents
Alternatives from other manufacturers
I had also looked at alternatives to ElliptiGO, e.g. stepper models (Streetstepper, Me-Mover) or the Bionic Runner, which is no longer manufactured but can sometimes be bought second-hand. However, these were somehow too technically complex/ too dubious or not practical enough for me, the support or the future of the brand or projects was unclear to me, or I just didn’t like the kind of movement that much.
More interesting seems to be the Cyclete, which is an symbiosis of moutainbike structure and elliptical movement. According to the manufacturer, the patented drive system provides a fluid, powerful running feeling.
It is a technically impressive machine. With a wheelbase of 137 centimeters and 29-inch wheels, it is comparatively large. Due to its design, it does not seem to be suitable for an indoor trainer and if you get a flat rear tire during a tour, you are probably in trouble without puncture spray.
The Cyclete is individually handcrafted in the US, which makes it comparatively expensive. When ordering there, shipping costs and import duties must also be taken into account. Because of the total costs, for me it is not a valid option. However, if there were an importer with spare parts supply in the European Union, a Cyclete might be an alternative.
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